Saturday, October 22, 2011

British hypnotist shows how an ordinary person can be programmed to kill: Sirhan/RFK parallel

Wow. I mean, just, wow. It's one thing to believe something. It's another to know it. I used to simply believe it was possible to program someone highly hypnotizable to kill, or pretend to kill, someone else. But now I don't just believe. I know. I saw it done, on this British show.
Master hypnotist Derren Brown has a new series of shows called "The Experiment" on Channel 4 in the UK. In his season opener this year, he did a segment called "The Assassin" in which he chooses a highly hypnotizable subject and gets him, by the end of a show (filmed over, if memory serves, a two-month period), to shoot at a celebrity in a public setting where the subject was given every reason to believe he was not being filmed and that was not part of an experiment.
You simply have to watch this show. You'll never know - you'll only just believe, or disbelieve - until you see this.
Watch fast. I'd be surprised if these links work for long.


Blogger Quentin Schwinn said...

Wow is right. I especially found interesting the comment, or disclaimer, that during the initial hypnosis sessions, they were unable to show the entire session on TV due to a law that prohibits them from being shown in their entirety on TV. There apparently was a fear that TV viewers could become hypnotized and not have a way to become un-hypnotized.

5:47 AM  
Blogger Real History Lisa said...

There's a similar law in the US re not broadcasting hypnotic inductions.

10:00 AM  
Blogger the saucer people said...

The "debunkers" argument that Sirhan could not have been a "hypno-programmed" assassin because as Mel Ayton says in his article "The JFK And RFK Assassinations And The Bogus 'Manchurian Candidate' Theories":

"There is no credible evidence that Sirhan was hypnotized by others to murder Senator Robert F. Kennedy nor is there any credible evidence he was controlled by others during the commission of his crime. Those who believe this to be true have not understood the truths of hypnosis"

The 'non sequitur' of those (including myself) who believe there is more than ample evidence that Sirhan was indeed a hypno-programmed patsy is the fact we "have not understood the truths of hypnosis".

This axiomatic principle of the debunkers means all evidence that points to the fact Sirhan was in a hypnotic state can be discounted because "no one can kill against there will". Likewise Sirhan must be lying when he says he cannot remember the actual shooting because no hypnotist can induce total amnesia.

What Derren Brown showed is the fact trance-suggestible people can not only be made to carry out assassinations but total amnesia around the events can be induced.

Of course from the "experts" point of view there will no doubt be "serious flaws" in comparing what Derren did to the young subject (did you notice as well he picked someone around Sirhan's height, build and age with similar personality traits) and the case of Sirhan.

I thought one of the most poignant moments in the program was when the end credits came up and they cut from the face of the show's hypno-programmed "assassin" to the famous photo of the young Sirhan looking at the camera in the Ambassador's Hotel pantry to a current picture of Sirhan.

These experts like Mel Ayton who tells us poor deluded "conspiracy nuts" that "we have not understood the truths of hypnosis" are in many ways are the ones epistemologically imprisoned by their beliefs to the extent that Derren Brown's show will not be considered as "credible evidence"..

Ever since MK-Ultra, Artichoke et al came to light we have been told that no-one can be programmed to act against their core belief structure (and that was why the assassination programs were abandoned by the CIA)..we now have an experiential experiment to show that is not the case.

One of the stangest things I have read recently is not only was CIA psych-spook Dr. William Joseph Bryan Jr was an advisor on the 1962 Manchurian Candidate film but according to Peter Levenda it was
the director John Frankenheimer who drove RFK to the Ambassador's Hotel on the night of his ever get the feeling that someone is trying to tell us something!

7:51 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I spent a year and a half getting a state recognized degree in hypnotherapy through hypnosis motivation institutes distant learning program and the help of a man who had a PhD in hypnosis from same.

From what I learned and experienced a good hypnotist Can clearly remove or even implant
"Memories" in many people.

I would say, hypnosis alone, causing actions
Against core beliefs is another kettle of fish.
But, from what I know about what has been released about trauma based techniques, such as those employed in artichoke to create people who even under gross terminating torture can't recall targeted information sans the proper "release" phrase object or action, I speculate that here too we are dealing with another kettle of fish from the therapeutic techniques which I learned.


12:43 PM  

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